Your initial post is due on Friday, and your response to a classmate is due Sunday.
Read the essential question, and write a thoughtful post. You must cite at least one passage from Lord of the Flies to support your thinking about the question. Your post must be at least 100 words. Use CLAIM, EVIDENCE, ELABORATION! Your response to a classmate must also be thoughtful. You must respond to at least one other classmate. Your response must be at least 50 words. No citation from the text is necessary for your response. 3. What does it mean to be civilized?
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Alvin O. per. 5
11/14/2012 05:20:33 am
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Jacelyn K., Per 6
11/15/2012 10:04:44 pm
I agree with how you define a civilized community. Without it, humanity turns into savagery, as we can now see in Jack. Also, society roles has to be fulfilled and rules enforced. Unfortunately, it seems that Ralph's wanting for humanity is not strong enough to keep everyone in check.
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Brandon Yip Period 5
11/18/2012 02:54:02 am
Great job on the quote. It really fits with the "civilized" quote. Jack, the hunters, and the little kids should start following Ralph's orders because if they don't the entire group would turn into turmoil and chaos. The group would no longer be together, they would be running around the island probably hunting each other.
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Cally M., Period 5
11/18/2012 10:06:35 am
I agree with your statement about what it means to be civilized. The fact that Ralph tried to organize the boys and establish rules showed that he was civilized. The way he behaved and carried himself, compared to the other boys on the island, reflected a refined manner and a displayed a desire for order.
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Andrew L. , Period 5
11/20/2012 02:05:04 pm
This quote enravels the general idea that civility is what is the basis of a well developed society. Without bringing the establishment of order, the society will not cooperate and eventually lead to nothing. Thus, your quote exemplifies the greatness in the justification of the rules among the members of the society on the island. Ralph brings change for that he becomes responsible and desires order among the stranded boys.
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Alex D.
12/2/2012 12:28:42 pm
I agree. Everybody should take part in their community and that is what makes them civilized. To be civilized is to do good and be a help to your society, not barbaric and doing a disservice.
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Jeffery W., Per 5
12/6/2012 09:15:11 am
I agree with your idea of a civilized society. Ralph tries to help them all in order to be saved, but Jack only wants to hunt instead of being saved, because the majority want meat, they all follow Jack except a few. If they kept on following Jack, it would eventually lead to turmoil.
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Andrew L. , Period 5
11/14/2012 11:50:41 am
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An H., Period 5
11/18/2012 03:32:16 pm
Although I do agree that respect is needed to be considered civilized, but respect for each other doesn't always go both way. One might had respect for another, but it could eventually diminish like it did with Jack to Ralph. Proper manner is very important because right now that is what draw the line between them being savages/warriors and civilization.
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Justin Tang
11/14/2012 01:04:25 pm
Claim: To be civilized means that you should respect the rules and who is in charge. If you don't follow your leaders, everything would go into chaos because his words would mean just as much as yours, contradicting each other.
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Cergio A. Period 5
11/17/2012 03:48:35 am
I agree with your post because rules for people is what only keeps all the people civilized and organized without it we would go nuts. for people to follow these rules is why we have police. Likewise i also listen to my parents and they tell me what is good or bad, which keeps me civilized as well.
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Aron I. Period 5
11/18/2012 10:30:17 am
I think that you made a good example about what it means to be civilized. Your claim and elaboration made me think about how important it is to follow the leader’s directions. Following the leader’s instructions or directions so that everything will be in order is what any group should do to stay civilized.
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lika m, period 5
11/18/2012 12:47:55 pm
I agree with your point. Most things on earth stay in order because there is some sort of law put in place. There is usually a leader also. The quote about how Ralph was trying to keep everything in order, but the boys did not want to listen shows exactly why individuals need to abide by the laws and leader in order for things to be accomplished.
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Courtney Thong
11/18/2012 01:48:20 pm
I agree with you. If my parents didn't have any rules or told me what to do and not to do,I would be a different person. Having someone there for you, telling you don't do this , don;t do that, it actually helps you in life. There demands will lead you to a successful life.
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Alvin O. per. 5
11/19/2012 03:33:59 pm
Saying that rules mean everything reminds of how Ralph's reaction and response to Jacky when he said, "Who cares?" after Ralph expressed his opinion on how important the rules he assigned are. This shows his care for society and the safety of their community. Because this relates to my claim, I will also agree to yours.
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Cally M., Period 5
11/14/2012 02:28:13 pm
Claim: To be civilized means that there is order established among all aspects of a society.
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Aren Lim Period 5
11/15/2012 01:31:51 pm
Dear Cally,
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Eric Lo, Period 5
11/18/2012 03:37:08 am
I agree with this claim. The boys really don't know what to do outside of hunting and starting fires. They have to be able to make contact with any boat or plane that comes to for rescue. Otherwise, i am doubtful that they will be rescued because they are just focused on surviving right now.
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Dinh T, Period 5
11/18/2012 02:18:04 pm
I believe that your claim is true because if there was no order in society, everyone would be out of place and nothing would get done. I like your elaboration because I also believe that Jack and the other boys are hungry for power. When they go hunting, they don’t even remember that their first priority is to get rescued.
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Benjamin L., Period 5
11/18/2012 03:03:25 pm
I agree with your evidence and elaboration. The boys elected Ralph to be chief of this group and yet these kids are not listening to him. The kids are now starting to listen to Jack since he is all about hunting and survival. Also, i dont think these kids know anything about patient and time.
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Tara D., Period 5
11/30/2012 01:14:34 pm
I agree with your claim but for your evidence, I think that at first the boys were civilized when they followed Ralph since they elected him as chief and he did have an influence on the boys especially the little ones. Things just get out of control and uncivilized when fear came in the story and they were all afraid because no adult was there to protect them.
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Aren Lim Period 5
11/15/2012 01:27:07 pm
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Justin Tang
11/19/2012 01:02:17 pm
I agree with your claim because if no one respected others, then nothing would become accomplished. They were uncivilized in the evidence you stated, and that is a good example because they are fightning among one another when they should be working as a team together and trying to get off the deserted island.
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Lika M. period 5
11/15/2012 02:12:00 pm
Claim: Being civilized means living a way in which everyone must obey the rules and work together to maintain unity and organization.
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12/13/2012 05:18:32 am
I agree with you that rules are necessary in order to maintain order. Without rules to obey, humans will do dangerous actions that will destroy society. Although there are people like Jack who disobey the rules and have an urge to ruin civilization. Rules are one of the only things that separate humans and animals.
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Jacelyn K., Per 6
11/15/2012 10:02:18 pm
Claim: To be civilized means to still be in the boundaries that society sets for us daily. There is still law and order in the community, and everyone serves their purpose.Everyone still holds a moral code and respects one another.
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James R., Period 5
11/19/2012 10:25:45 am
I agree with how you claimed that there are laws and orders to be carried out by individuals. Ralph did his job of refining the group by making sure everyone acknowledges the rules. The group will be orderly civilized if the boys actually choose to make right decisions.
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Jeffery W. Period 5
11/16/2012 08:19:23 am
CLAIM: To be civilized means to be able to behave properly and obey the rules given to you.
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Dawson W., Period 5
12/13/2012 05:15:07 am
I agree when their isn't any rule there can be problems with people arguing with each other and starting a riot even worst a war against each other. Rules is what makes up a civilized society and to keep peace with each other. When the people in the civilized community they have to obey and follow rules and no just let loose.
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Aron I. Period 5
11/16/2012 10:27:20 am
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Wei L. Period 5
12/10/2012 01:23:38 pm
I agree with how you showed that being civilized comes from law and rules. Jack always has conflicts with either Piggy or Ralph so can’t be civilized. Being civilized means that the community must agree to follow the rules that was chosen themselves. Jack is the one who is breaking rules so he shouldn’t be civilized with his tribe.
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An H., Period 5
11/16/2012 01:11:00 pm
Claim: To be civilized means that each person follows the rules that was made within the community and to respect each other.
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An H., Period 5
11/16/2012 02:09:07 pm
Claim: To be civilized means that each person follows the rules that was made within the community and to respect each other.
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Benjamin L., Period 5
11/16/2012 03:15:19 pm
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Dinh T, Period 5
11/16/2012 03:16:38 pm
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Eric Lo, Period 5
11/17/2012 10:21:38 am
Claim: To be civilized is to act where you can be accepted by anyone and be acknowledged with respect.
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Brandon Yip Period 5
11/18/2012 02:42:56 am
Claim: To be civilized means that you have to follow all the rules and requests the leader gives out.
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Tara D., Period 5
11/18/2012 02:44:22 am
Claim: Being civilized means that people have to act proper in a community to keep everything from getting to chaotic.
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Dominic Garcia
11/18/2012 01:42:55 pm
Claim:To be civilized it means you know what has to be done and take action.
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Courtney Thong
11/18/2012 01:45:50 pm
Claim: To be civilized means living by rules, being orderly.
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Wei L. Period 5
11/18/2012 02:33:32 pm
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James Zhijie R., Period 5
11/19/2012 10:12:27 am
Claim: To be civilized means to have a highly developed society and culture.
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Cergio A. Period 5
11/20/2012 10:57:43 am
Claim: To be civilized means, to not against the leader that has been chosen and trying to go against the leader and turning people to your side so just that you can be the leader.
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Alex D.
12/2/2012 12:27:04 pm
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Robert Carrasco Per 5
12/6/2012 09:32:03 am
Claim: Being civilized is following all the rules and by not following the rules there would be chaos. Like what Jack did to Ralph which who was the leader of everyone.
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Robert Carrasco Per 5
12/6/2012 09:37:43 am
I agree with you because if Jack would have had listened then there would be no chaos. But Jack didn't listen and soon became a savage.
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12/13/2012 05:06:30 am
Claim: To be civilized is to be mature and thoughtful about making decisions. Being civilized also means to be aware of the people around you. Also, having a desire for order and peace is being civilized.
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Dawson W., Period 5
12/13/2012 05:12:35 am
Claim: To be civilized is to be who you are and not to fall into a state where you lose everything you ever have.
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