Fifth LOF post for EXTRA CREDIT

12/13/2012

Your initial post is due on Friday, and your response to a classmate is due Sunday.

Read the essential question, and write a thoughtful post. You must cite at least one passage from Lord of the Flies to support your thinking about the question. Your post must be at least 100 words. Follow the CLAIM, EVIDENCE, and ELABORATION model.

Your response to a classmate must also be thoughtful. You must respond to at least one other classmate. Your response must be at least 50 words. No citation from the text is necessary for your response.

5. How do society's views and stereotypes affect a person's power?

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Aren Lim

12/13/2012 12:06:42 pm

Claim: I think that society's views and stereotypes greatly lower a person's power.

Evidence: People always have a thought of someone based on their nationality or race. Positive or negative, there is always something a person is thinking before you can even express yourself.

Elaboration: When you hear a stereotype, whether it is true or false, it still gets to you in a way, because you probably you are offended, or someone you know gets offended. It sets a level on how society looks at you. Judging you before you can even say a word. Initially already having a point of view of you before you can even express yourself.

Cergio Angel Period 5

12/16/2012 10:35:14 am

I agree with what you said about people thinking stuff about you when you are speaking. There's always people that think negative stuff about you and may share with others but keep it a secret from you. And the things people will say about you will make you feel less powerful when you know people think of you in a certain way.

Cergio Angel period 5

12/13/2012 12:18:25 pm

Claim: Stereotypes can sincerely affect a persons power, or limit it. It can be more of a greater change than a society changing.

Evidence: An example in The Lord of the Flies is when Jack and Ralph are arguing when jack let the fire out and went to go hunt for meat instead. "You let the fire go out....There was a ship out there.You said you'd keep the fire going and you let it out! They might have seen us. We We might have gone home."pages(60~80)

Elaboration: In general, the way Ralph first saw him as a civilized serious boy at first seemed to have all changed in his one act. Him losing the fire and becoming a savage by hunting a boar with a wooden spear. Plus it seems as if he didn't care to get rescued anymore once Ralph told him about the boats passing by. He was changing into a different person.

Jacelyn K.

12/16/2012 11:30:03 am

I agree with your claim. Stereotypes keep us from expressing and showing the true us. It limits us and changes the way we think and the way the society reacts.

Jacelyn K.

12/16/2012 11:28:31 am

Claim: I believe that society's view and stereotypes greatly influence one's behavior and ethics.

Evidence: An example from Lord of the Flies would be when Roger destroys the littlun's sandcastles and throws rock at them. He is careful to avoid hitting the children, maybe even a little hesitant.

Elaboration: Roger, from Lord of the Flies, shows how he was bound with society's expectations and stereotypes. He was taught that everyone should act morally and the stereotypes defined his ethics. So, even on the island, some of it was still in him, influencing the way he acted and the way he thinks.

Benjamin L., Period 5

12/16/2012 02:23:52 pm

Claim: Society’s view and stereotype can really change a person a lot. It would basically have them become more different than themselves.
Evidence: In Lord of the Flies, by William Golding, when Ralph yelled at Jack for not watching the fire and doing his duty, Jack started to be on his own with his hunters. After a few days of Jack leaving, Jack has changed a lot. For example, “You let the fire go out…. There was a ship out there. You said you’d keep the fire going and you let it out!” (pg.70)
Elaboration: This shows that when Ralph yelled at Jack for not doing his job or duty and yelling that he is chief, it kind of expresses Jack’s savageness. Since Jack is all about hunting and really don’t care about going home, Jack just basically change. Becoming like a savage Tarzan, Jack was a new person, unlike anyone has ever seen before.

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